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Freedom of speech versus good manners

Sunday, May 30, 2010 
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Not surprisingly I had several comments from readers following last Sunday’s column accusing me of double standards for not defending Zapiro’s constitutional right to insult Muslims. To be honest, I’m not very fond of Jonathan Shapiro. I think he’s a brilliant cartoonist but as slippery as a bucketful of eels when it comes to integrity. When I got sacked from the Sunday Times for writing an allegedly “racist” article a couple of years ago he couldn’t wait to put the boot in at the Franschhoek Literary Festival. He certainly didn’t defend my right to freedom of speech on that occasion as he sat in a smug clammy sweat while the predominantly white audience looked on in bemusement. What became clear to all present was that young Johnny Shapiro couldn’t actually give a shit about freedom of speech if it is being exercised by someone with a posh English accent and a house in the northern suburbs of Johannesburg.

But my opinions on the Zapiro cartoon last week had nothing to do with the fact I think he’s a sanctimonious toady. And my suggestion that he was way out of order to insult South African Muslims was not an endorsement to curb press freedoms. Far from it. It was simply a matter of good manners and, as I’ve already explained, this is a foreign concept to Zapiro.

Those who support freedom of speech fall into two distinct camps; the active and the passive. The active are by far the smaller group and are made up of people like myself and Zapiro who put our names to our work every week. When an article appears with my name on it I have to accept full responsibility for the contents of that article. The passive supporters of freedom of speech have things much easier. They are the ones who are quick to criticize an article suggesting that a cartoon deliberately mocking the Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) shouldn't enjoy the same freedom as those mocking the Roman Catholic faith or Christianity. If Catholics and Christians can take it then why can’t the Muslims get a bloody sense of humour goes the reasoning? If only it were as simple as that. The Muslim community in SA, while angered at Zapiro’s tasteless cartoon, proved themselves to be generous spirited members of society by their acceptance of his overdue apology. This doesn’t mean that they are a humourless bunch that are enemies of freedom of expression.

The passive supporters of freedom of expression are quick to accuse me of double standards and cowardice but when I suggest that they might like to write an article insulting to Muslims under their own name which we will happily publish on Newstime along with their contact details they suddenly go very quiet. So it’s all right for someone else to whip up the frenzy in the name of freedom of speech and take the heat while they remain out of sight but they wouldn’t have the guts to do it themselves it appears. Like him or not, Zapiro has drawn some very edgy cartoons and I admire him for having the guts to do so. And I support his right to do so even if that support is not reciprocated.

But the offending Zapiro cartoon was wrong for one simple reason. If I accidentally kick your shin under the table and you flinch I apologise. I know you don’t like it but you also know it was an accident and I didn’t mean to do it. If, however, I see that it annoys you and I do it again then I am pushing my luck. If you tell me to not kick you in the shin and I repeatedly do so then I am obviously out to be as obnoxious and aggressive as possible.

Muslims have made it abundantly clear that they object to any drawings of the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him). If you’re not a Muslim (and obviously I’m not) it is perhaps difficult to see where the offence lies but the ground rules have been peaceably laid down and you break them at your peril. It’s not even a case that some extreme Muslims object but most don’t. It is a universal rule. In which case it is just plain bad manners to ignore such a reasonable request. If Muslims take their religion more seriously than Catholics or Protestants and don’t like it to be mocked why should that be seen as a weakness?

Freedom of expression is a lovely idea in theory but sooner or later someone is bound to be offended. Over the years I have apologized for several things I have written that offended people and on occasions made symbolic donations to charity as penance. The difference is that I had no idea that some readers would be quite so offended when I wrote the article. If you sit worrying about who you might offend you will never write another column. Zapiro’s cartoon, on the other hand, was bound to offend because he did what he was specifically asked not to do by a particular religious group. Bad manners. Bad judgement. Good publicity. As Oscar Wilde said, the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

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7279 Abdul Aziz Khan  [ Saturday, June 26, 2010 | 12:52:55 PM ]
@edward, glad we are on first name terms. I am deeply sadened that you think of yourself as an unwashed infidel. You should look in the mirror and review your self esteem. Death is the only certaintly of life. We think of death constantly so as to be better human beings and not commit sin. Islam has never ruled by the sword. In fact Europe and the US have and still rule by the sword. How else did they colonise so many countries in the world. How else is the US ruling over Iraq and Afghanistan. Please read the book "Muhammad" by Karen Armstrong and you will see that prisoners of war had more rights than muslims and treated justly. The Nats ruled and oppressed by the sword in our country, they are christian and so are the Europeans and the Americans. So, your statement of Islam ruling by the sword is incorrect and unjust.
7277 Abdul Aziz Khan  [ Saturday, June 26, 2010 | 11:09:29 AM ]
sorry for the late response but was away. @Jeff Jones, if your source is Quran and hadith and you have not seen the truth, than perhaps you dont want to see the truth. If those are your sources, then you would know that Islam does not preach violence and it is empahtically stated in the hadith that there is no compulsion in religion. You are guilty of your own accusations. I attend mosque daily and have yet to hear an imam preaching violence. Since you know of plenty of imams who preach this, may I suggest you refer them to the Human Rights Council. We dont object to your criticism but do to your insults of our Prophet (pbuh). Again, I invite you to discover Islam, the true Islam according to the Quran and hadith.
7224 edward jolliffe  [ Friday, June 18, 2010 | 6:45:42 PM ]
First, why the contact number required on signing in David? Second, you and Zapiro are birds of a feather, is that so difficult to understand? Or difficult to accept? I'm surprised you are not into mutual admiration, something my mother explained to me was important in life. As for the cartoon, I thought the prophet (hallowed be his name... we wish) was actually Osama.. Jack, just exactly what is it you believe about Canadians? Can you give me an example. I've been criticized for being a Canuk all my life, doesn't bother me in the least, I simply smile at such comments. I mean, we are all one people, we earthlings, and as a Cdn I wish the best for all, and an end to atrocities, ignorance and corrupt governments.The difficulty Abdul, for all us unwashed infidels, is that so many of your folk love death before life, and still believe in the rule by the sword.
7149 Jeff Jones  [ Thursday, June 10, 2010 | 8:15:50 PM ]
@ 2 lip"But lets respect each others views and beliefs and be tolerant".Why should I respect your beliefs and tolerate what I feel is a load of nonsense? As long as I do you no harm I have every right not to respect your beliefs, exactly the same as you have every right not to respect my atheism. World War two was to last so long because too many people were tolerant of Hitler for too long. After all Hitler had his beliefs, maybe we should just have tolerated them a bit longer.Good manners have their limits. There are laws against attacking people by deliberately kicking them, whether under the table or nor. There are no laws to prevent me offending people. After all David Bullard is rather proud of his offending some people, good manners don't seem to be too much of a restraint on him there.Just because we have religious tolerance doesn't mean that one religion can dictate to those outside it's fold how it portrays that religion and it's adherents. It's no good appealing to religious people to be "reasonable" as there is nothing "reasonable" about religion and religious beliefs.
7148 Jeff Jones  [ Thursday, June 10, 2010 | 7:03:00 PM ]
Zapiro has just portrayed Helen Zille with a toilet seat on her head. Should DA supporters be allowed to threaten him with death? As a DA supporter I find it a huge insult to a woman whom I admire a great deal. Certainly I admire her a lot more than I do Mohammed (or Jesus, or any other religious nutjob for that matter).David, your challenge to people to write an article insulting the muslim prophet, just goes to prove the point that people don't do that out of fear of the reprisals that could ensue. They don't do it out of respect or good manners. It's that they realise that far too many muslims have a violent response to the mildest critical remarks about their religion. Muslims are an easily offended bunch when it comes to their prophet. In fact they make much more of an idol of him than they care to admit. They are more offended by "insults" to Mohammed than they are of "insults" to Allah. Historically there are plenty of pictorial representations of Mohammed, many done by muslims down through the ages. The ban on depictions of him is not an Islamic one as laid down in the Quran or anywhere else, it is a ban decided upon by some human muslim clerics a long time ago. It is something that remains contentious to this day.
7147 Jeff Jones  [ Thursday, June 10, 2010 | 6:44:53 PM ]
@Abdul Aziz Khan"...challenge the rest to clarify their source of information regarding Islam."Critics of Islam get their information on Islam and it's "Prophet" from the Quran and the ahadith, just as muslims get it from those sources. It's just that the critics choose to emphasise different parts of those sources than the muslims, both peaceful and fundamentalists do.The Quran and the ahadith, just like any other "Holy books" and sources often contradict themselves in different verses. Anyone can emphasise the parts of the "Holy books" that he/she agrees with and ignore the parts that they disagree with.There are plenty of imams in some mosques who preach the from the Quran emphasising the violent bits of it.No religion has the right to declare that no-one can criticise it at pain of death, or even criticise it at all for that matter.Other religions are more tolerant of criticism, not because they are weak, but because they are confident enough in their belief system to accept or ignore the criticism.Jesus is just as important to Christians as your prophet is to you and other muslims. Jesus is portrayed in a manner that many Christians object to on an almost daily basis, however, those portraying him in such a manner do not get death threats. Personally I think all religion is a load of nonsense. Christians and other religions may disagree with me, but let any muslim try to become and apostate and say something similar, and he/she would be putting themselves at great risk from the muslim community.
7116 Gavin Foster  [ Tuesday, June 08, 2010 | 9:11:14 PM ]
Let's see if I have this right..If the Israelis want to put an end to all the bad press they habitually attract all they have to do is saw a few heads off on TV, blow up a few large buildings full of innocent office workers, hijack a few airliners and say that they find criticism of their national pride, forged through centuries of oppression, offensive? That's what it seems like to me.
7102 Rodney Ulyate  [ Monday, June 07, 2010 | 9:58:47 PM ]
How, exactly, do I go about submitting it? (And why does this website do such violence to my comments?)
7101 Rodney Ulyate  [ Monday, June 07, 2010 | 7:00:16 PM ]
My anti-Islam polemic, complete with the requisite personal details, is on its way, David. Trust you'll fulfill ‹i‹your‹/i‹ side of the bargain?Rodney Ulyate
7088 Abdul Aziz Khan  [ Sunday, June 06, 2010 | 10:45:04 PM ]
Mr. Bullard, thank you for your articles exposing the pathetic cartoonist who had to turn to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to save his declining career.

Who says he doesn't believe in religion? I complement all the commentators who understood the deliberate offense the cartoon caused and challenge the rest to clarify their source of information regarding Islam. CNN, BBC worse FOX, even worse George W, Bush and Blair?

If they took the time to study Islam before commenting, they would find that terrorism and other atrocities done in the name of Islam, has nothing to do with and has no basis in Islam except to feed the propoganda politicians churn out to muster and mantain support, like Zapiro tried to do.

Anyone truly interested in and wanting to know about the real and true Islam, ask a Muslim. Write back and we will hook up through this site.
7085 David Bullard  [ Sunday, June 06, 2010 | 4:45:03 PM ]
I lay down the same challenge chaps....you write an article offensive to Muslims and we'll publish it providing you put your name to it and give us a physical address so that any complainants may contact you directly. Up for it? No I thought not.
7080 Jack Simmers  [ Sunday, June 06, 2010 | 6:13:59 AM ]
My goodness, you are sounding very Canadian, where being offended trumps freedom of speech.
7079 Rodney Ulyate  [ Saturday, June 05, 2010 | 10:02:55 PM ]
Oh, for goodness sake. Could we *please* do something about the rendering of comments here?
7076 pete laubscher  [ Saturday, June 05, 2010 | 3:06:26 PM ]
Not your best piece. There's a contradiction lurking somewhere that I have yet to unearth. But I think it was worth making the point that what the English common sensically say
7072 Rodney Ulyate  [ Saturday, June 05, 2010 | 10:36:33 AM ]
I should also like dearly to know what exactly it is in that innocuous toon you find to be of such appalling taste, or how it qualifies as an "insult" or a violation of manners, or why on earth Zapiro should have been required to tender an "apology" for it; and if you honestly suppose that the intelligent and perceptive in your readership won't see right through the sickly invocations of "good manners" and notice that, like so many others on this issue, you employ term like "respect" and "civility" only to mask the heart of your argument, which is "fear."For, as you freely state, "the ground rules have been peaceably laid down and you break them at your peril " (my emphasis). I applaud you for admitting as much (although I should quarrel with the term "peaceably," and note that it rather conflicts with the "break them at your peril" part). Would that you had balls enough also to distance yourself from the baseless cynicism of the notion that "[t]hey did it for the money."Rodney Ulyate
7071 Rodney Ulyate  [ Saturday, June 05, 2010 | 10:17:46 AM ]
Oh please. If the question of "good manners" is all that rankles you, why not turn your ire on those mirthless cretins of jihad so rude and disrespectful as consistently to suborn and threaten and indeed perpetrate violence?* The reaction to this cowardice should be mockery and contempt and execration, not meek compliance and the blaming of victims. By their ceaseless violation of the rights of others, Islamists have forfeited at the very least the right to be spoken to politely. (And since when, actually, is that a "right" at all?)Your should be ashamed of yourself.Rodney Ulyate* All, I might remind you, for the crimes of writing novels or drawing pictures.
7067 Hethen Hira  [ Friday, June 04, 2010 | 4:21:17 PM ]
Well written as usual.
7029 Bruce Chelius  [ Thursday, June 03, 2010 | 8:20:06 AM ]
David, letting special interest groups determine how they can and can't be portrayed is never going to be a good idea - even if they do ask nicely.
7008 Pamela Younghusband  [ Tuesday, June 01, 2010 | 2:03:33 PM ]
Great writing, David. I always chase up your columns because you are one of the few columnists who tells it like it is - and I enjoy your humour. While I am an admirer of Jonathon Shapiro's courage and talent as a cartoonist, I agree that the Mohammed [peace be unto him] cartoon showed bad judgment on his part. In particular, I find it ill- timed. He should have taken into account the terrorist threats around the upcoming World Cup. Since Muslim extremists are reportedly targetting the Danes and the Dutch, perceived by them as mocking their religion, he has now added himself - and South Africa - to this equasion. Apart from showing bad manners and bad judgment, I find his decision to make a point about freedom of expression - two weeks before some 32 world leaders et al descend on this country - foolhardy and downright dangerous.
7001 Marc Sparks  [ Monday, May 31, 2010 | 10:43:46 PM ]
Your right to be insulted is sacrosanct.By this logic, should the motor industry, or simply a manufacturer find negative comments about their products offensive, then you shouldn't publish it. (and support of Italian vehicles often does border on the religious)So long as they lay the groundrules, and make their position clear.Of course this logic can be taken to even more silly extremes, what if Christians find the Muslim characterisation of Jesus as a mere prophet offensive? Surely the Crusades are a strong argument that they're made their feelings clear on this issue?This is of course why freedom of religion only works under the auspices of secular law.It's like the road, the Merc driver may find the presence of the Beemer on "His" road offensive, but both of them have to obey the same set of traffic rules as the Fiat.
6997 David Bullard  [ Monday, May 31, 2010 | 11:08:45 AM ]
@ Eye KThank you. But as I suspect you don't know the difference between "ingenious" "ingenuous" and "disingenuous" I fear that I would be wasting my time answering your rather lame point. The meaning of the article is perfectly clear but it does assume a certain level of reader intelligence. Clearly you fall short of the required level...thanks for playing but no cigar this week.
6993 Mas Lus  [ Monday, May 31, 2010 | 7:45:17 AM ]
Your salty column is starting to sound like a broken record. I don't think you should be telling us about your "sacking" on every column. Please write about something interesting next time. Thank and you are welcome.
6992 Rod MacKenzie  [ Sunday, May 30, 2010 | 11:45:38 PM ]
Well said, David. I particularly appreciate the remarks on having no idea, as a writer, one was going to be offensive. I have had experiences of both that in my blogs and in Cracking China, negative, offended remarks that have puzzled me. Your image of kicking the shin under the table is most apt. However, I still feel it is a columnists job to say it like it is, and therefore one is going to be offensive, perhaps without deliberately intending to.Some commentators on this piece of yours have said that you/Newstime are just trying to make as much publicity for yourselves out of the Shapiro cartoon as possible. Well, that may be true. A news media company is supposed to chase hot news dammit, otherwise it will fold and cease to be relevant.The cartoon has opened up a certain can: religious tolerance and tolerance of others beliefs. And it has clearly been hotly debated.The critics that say you/Newstime are seeking more publicity appear to have missed another simple point: all leading columnists should have their say on the matter of Muslims desiring censorship, hopefully their words will give the religious tolerance issue a new perspective and their columns will invite readers to see the matter from a point of view that is perhaps a bit outside the box. This you have done in this article.
6989 Eye K  [ Sunday, May 30, 2010 | 6:05:11 PM ]
David, I find your reasoning a little bit ingenious. are you claiming that you wouldnt write about a matter if you knew it would cause offence beforehand? But I thought you did that all the time. Or are you simply insinuating that if Mondli Makhanya asked you to stop writing about him as he finds it offensive then you would oblige him? Or is this courtesy only afforded the Muslims? Seems to me you just have a bone to pick with Zapiro, no?
6985 Mike Trapido  [ Sunday, May 30, 2010 | 12:25:42 PM ]
Yet all of this pales into insignificance when you see David speaking live.I have seen many speakers over the years but Dave mesmerizes an audience like nobody else.The reason is simple - he calls it how he sees it and says the things that need to be said but everyone else is afraid to.Youre an asset to the country chap and the sooner people appreciate that courage the sooner people will start facing up to our challenges rather than sweeping them under the carpet.That makes you more of a patriot than those who - because of self interests that they would rather remain under wraps - vilify you. Keep on calling it.
6982 David Bullard  [ Sunday, May 30, 2010 | 11:42:31 AM ]
@Dre....not a bad idea. But I'd rather Dov Fedler drew me....he's still SA's number 1 cartoonist for me because he doesn't kiss ass like Zapiro.
6980 Dre -  [ Sunday, May 30, 2010 | 11:26:29 AM ]
David, I'm a big fan of yours and agree that drawing the prophet was a publicity stunt for sure.

However, these last two articles of yours criticising Jonathan Shapiro appear to be a thinly veiled attempt at getting him to draw you (no doubt doing something silly) and so increasing your fame, no?
6979 2 lip  [ Sunday, May 30, 2010 | 10:36:24 AM ]
David, I agree with what youve said about Muslims, good manners and all of that. What I admire them for, is that they have made it abundantly clear how they feel about any of their holy objects and people being ridiculed.

I think after several incidents in the recent past it is clear to most level headed individuals that it’s not a good idea to venture into that direction.What saddens me is that we cannot say the same about Christianity. When using this term, I’m referring to Christians of all convictions.

I know many will argue that when Christianity is mocked it’s a case of turning the other cheek, grin and bear it, etc. But what I miss is that it is not communicated to those who offend that their views are not greeted with enthusiasm. It seems that mockery of the Christian religion has become a free for all of late. Especially taking the Lord’s Name in vain strikes a sensitive nerve with me.

I find many American and British films and TV programs that propagate this. I have no appreciation for this. Perhaps setting off a few bombs in the general vicinity of the transgressors should perhaps convince them that it might not be a good idea to make those views so public. I think your guidelines of good manners and using common sense when making such remarks are good ones. I just wish more people would abide to those rules. Often, I find myself being disgusted at the lack of respect that people have for things I regard as holy and precious.

Fortunately, we don’t live in a society anymore were the religious views of one group are imposed on the broad populace. So now it’s a case of each to his own. But lets respect each others views and beliefs and be tolerant!
6977 Grant Penny  [ Sunday, May 30, 2010 | 9:15:10 AM ]
I agree with you this week as I did last. I have full respect for clever smacks at 'deserving' people/groups, but when you go out to offend someone for doing very little even after you know how it will turn out, that is silly, and makes me loose a lot of respect for that person (Zapiro). I say with this with respect Bullard; you're collumns I love, especially the hotly debate Out to Lunch but it is so great to see another side of your writing, keep it up!