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Smoking laws......the new apartheid.

Sunday, September 20, 2009 
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I was having lunch at one of my favourite restaurants, Pronto in the Colony Centre in Craighall, when the delightful Natasha who runs the place with such charm and efficiency came up and asked “what on earth am I going to do about these new smoking regulations?”

Now I do know that new legislation has been passed which makes it illegal for me to smoke a cigarette in my car when there is a twelve year old also in the car. It’s not illegal to smoke with a thirteen year old in the car however which shows what an ass the law is sometimes. Obviously something miraculous happens to a child’s lungs when they become thirteen which enables them to cope with passive cigarette smoke. And supposing it’s the twelve year old kid who lights up? Am I still in trouble?

Fortunately I don’t travel around with pre pubescent kids in my car very often so I can smoke like a chimney if I want to. Except I can’t exhale the smoke through my window if I am at an intersection where illegal immigrants are trying to sell me pirated DVD’s and white coat hangers. The reason for this is that this becomes a place of work and so by exhaling my smoke one of the coat hanger salesmen might inhale it, become shockingly ill as a result and then sue me for damages. I’m not sure about this but I don’t think I can smoke at home on the day the maid comes for the very same reason. My home becomes a place of work and, unless the maid is a smoker herself, I could be the cause of future pulmonary problems. I have to go outside…..right outside.

I visited a bank once that had a room set aside for those employees that smoked. It was a depressingly gloomy room full of cigarette haze, overflowing ashtrays and lots of happy but unhealthy looking people inhaling as much smoke as they could before they had to go back to their desks. These were the bank’s serious smokers and I reckon you could probably have got lung cancer by just sitting next to them and inhaling the smoke fumes from their clothes. Then political correctness hit the bank and the smoking room was closed thus depriving the smokers of their rights. Tough. They then had to leave the building and so you would see little huddles of smokers standing on a freezing cold July day outside the revolving doors of the bank with a mass of stamped out cigarette butts at their feet. Firstly, this doesn’t give a good impression to customers and, secondly, surely the time it takes for a smoker to leave his or her desk, get the lift down to the ground floor, go through security, stand at the front door for a cigarette and then come all the way back to the desk is a colossal waste of time and money. The smoking room was a much more cost effective idea. But now the smokers are no longer allowed to huddle outside a building. They have to move far away from the doorway into a space where their filthy exhalations won’t harm anybody.

In the city of Johannesburg this is difficult because as you move too far away from your doorway you move into the space of somebody else’s doorway. If you work at Standard Bank’s head office for example the only place you can smoke is in the middle of Simmonds Street, with two lines of cars and taxis whizzing by on either side of you. The logic of the legislators is clear……either give up smoking of die of lead fume inhalation or get hit by a taxi.

Natasha’s dilemma is more serious. She runs a bustling restaurant and some patrons want to smoke. I’ve been known to enjoy the occasional cigar there with the legendary Stephen Mulholland. Prior to this new legislation smokers could sit at tables outside and smoke as much as they wanted. Admittedly this prejudiced non smokers who wanted an outside table in summer but you can’t please everyone. Now, the smokers can’t sit outside because there is a roof over the area so it becomes an “enclosed space”. The only table you could possibly smoke at is one that isn’t placed under any form of roof. It could even be argued that an umbrella constitutes an “enclosed space”. So you either have to sit in the sun or the rain if you want an intercourse cigarette. This is an absurd situation but it’s made more so because the onus is on the owner of the restaurant to make sure that nobody smokes. The fine for a contravention is R50000. You can beat somebody up in a fit of road rage and it will cost you much less.

So imagine what happens if the restaurant owner is busy in the kitchen and somebody innocently lights up. Worse still, what happens if I want to close a restaurant that has moved onto my turf and is taking my business away? Simple….I send people there to smoke having first alerted the elite Cigarette Squad. A couple of R50000 fines and my competition is dead in the water. This is a law so absurd, so difficult to enforce fairly and so open to abuse that it automatically qualifies as a fine example of lousy legislation. Personally, I don’t like to smoke in a restaurant and I don’t like people smoking near me. But I do want to smoke after the meal while I enjoy a coffee and a grappa. Quite how we are going to explain this bizarre state of affairs to the throngs of foreign visitors who are expected to descend on us for World Cup 2010 I don’t know. Or maybe we’re only allowing in non smoking footie fans.

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4949 supabitch  [ Monday, October 12, 2009 | 7:32:51 PM ]
How about the govenment being more strict on real crimes being committed out there....... how many innocent people not to mention children get KILLED/MURDERED daily, in the most brutal ways.

Yeah clamp down on smokers and tighten the smoking laws. I aggree with a previous comment no matter what and how badly you try smokers will still find a way to smoke, regarless whether the person next to them is a non smoker... I know from a personal perspective - I don't smoke but 80% of my colleagues do!!
4946 supabitch  [ Monday, October 12, 2009 | 7:21:43 PM ]
I suppose dying from first or second hand smoke is worse,and would not be AS bad as being physically abused , brutally attacked or even raped and killed. So hey, yeh, keep the Elite Cigarrette Nazi Health Freaks on partol. Oh.... how pathetic are we getting.
2417 Tony Paladin  [ Sunday, October 04, 2009 | 8:11:14 PM ]
It's about time!

Maybe now we'll actually get to enjoy a balcony in a restaurant or pub without having to smell the stench of lung cancer candidates.

I will be very vigilant in reporting non compliance in restaurants and institutions.
2258 happy2bpufffree  [ Monday, September 28, 2009 | 10:15:28 AM ]
If you don't smoke during sex, then you're not doing it fast enough.
2233 darklordpook  [ Sunday, September 27, 2009 | 2:33:53 PM ]
In all fairness, as someone who'se job it is to look after the consequences of long-term smoking (vascular surgeon in public practice), i would like to tell you that the government is spending literally hundreds of thousands of rands per patient to try and slow down / reverse some of the physical damage caused by smoking. Never mind the cost to society of all the amputations i have to carry out. Same goes for the neuorlogists treating stroke and the cardiologists treating miocardial infarcts caused as a direct result of smoking.
2221 David Bullard  [ Sunday, September 27, 2009 | 10:00:38 AM ]
Cracked 3000 reads. Thank you.
2219 Michael J. McFadden  [ Sunday, September 27, 2009 | 5:38:55 AM ]
Gerry wrote, "C’mon – open up the pubs to cigs, keep the restaurants smoke-free if you have to, but please let me join my mates for a few beers and a game of cricket. "

Sorry Gerry. Ain't gonna happen unless people like you make one HECK of a lot of noise. The ban's purpose is to make smoking uncomfortable and anti-social. The people who pushed it couldn't care less about your life and enjoyment. They believe that if the ban reduces smoking by pushing people to quit then it's a good thing no matter what the cost. And some of them will admit privately on the side that they're pleased at the thought that maybe they'll "help" you to stop drinking those pints by taking the social fun out of it.

Michael J. McFadden,
Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"
2201 Gerry  [ Friday, September 25, 2009 | 4:33:12 PM ]
I’ve never smoked in my life – not even a puff.

But I’m a bit mad about this law – and I’d like to suggest that we make an exception to pubs. A pub is a place where people go to have a social drink and a fag. Its not about the food, its about the get-togethers. I enjoy going into a pub with my old man (who smokes) and watch a game. Meet a few friends, have a chinwag, a few games of pool… Maybe a round of poker.

Now that’s gone. People can’t be bothered anymore. No one is gonna invite half the pub to their house – heck – I only own 3 chairs! Now I have to suffer the loss of a large part of my relaxation coz of this? I don’t see my mates anymore, when I do its one on one, the social gatherings are at an end, and thanks to this ridiculous, unenforceable law, I’m watching cricket on my own tonight instead of with friends, cos they can’t smoke down at the pub.

C’mon – open up the pubs to cigs, keep the restaurants smoke-free if you have to, but please let me join my mates for a few beers and a game of cricket.
2191 Mike Preston  [ Thursday, September 24, 2009 | 10:37:38 PM ]
David :

Whilst I detest smoking, I agree with you about the poorly drafted legislation, and I'm delighted to see you back with your controversial, outspoken, non-PC comments.

Best wishes

2181 Frank Dolan  [ Thursday, September 24, 2009 | 4:20:08 PM ]
Ah DB, contentious as ever - but then you always were "..a writer. I have written many things." Did you hear that the Irish budget airline Ryanair is to offer electronic "cigarettes" to passengers on its flights? No smoke, no fire but a nicotine hit apparently. Of course, you will only be able to buy them on the plane - not take them on board - and you can imagine how expensive they'll be. It woudl probalby be cheaper to chew on one of your Havanas.....
2179 Doninik  [ Thursday, September 24, 2009 | 10:45:57 AM ]
The other big irony about smokers is that they're all for "freedom of choice" when it comes to where they can smoke.....but when companies start to favour non-smoking potential recruits over smokers they scream about it. Surely it's the employer's freedom of choice as to who they hire? Stats clearly show that smokers are less productive and take many more sick days off work. Why would you recruit a smoker? They're a burden on the economy, they litter the streets, they clog-up the healthcare system, they pollute the lungs of others (including children).......and given all this they expect people to be respectful of their rights. If it wasn't so absurd it would be laughable......
2172 Daniel  [ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | 11:20:56 PM ]
The thing about smokers that really gets my blood boiling is the smoker who smokes for 10 years gets lung cancer then sues the industry for millions. The link has been there for nigh on 20 years now these fools should accept their fate and perish.
2161 Dominik  [ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | 4:36:56 PM ]
yeah.....shame on those 'nazis' who are trying to improve people's health.....
2157 rgrant  [ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | 1:52:35 PM ]
I lay the blame squarley at the feet of Helen Zille !!!!!
2156 Jens Eggers  [ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | 1:47:20 PM ]
All I can say is I greatly prefer seeing smokers complain in print, than have them polluting the air I breathe and place the onus of objecting on me. Many restaurants are a breath of fresh air these days. Write on, David!
2154 Paul Whelan  [ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | 12:12:06 PM ]
There are few arguments more difficult to grasp than the argument that because people die of other (arguably) preventable causes - cars, pollution, alcohol (and why leave out boating, parachuting, running and sex?) - we should not do our best to help them stop killing themselves and others, aimlessly and in large numbers, with an entirely unhealthy habit that is, by comparison, easy to control.

2146 CarlS  [ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | 10:22:01 AM ]
So long slow suicide.

But seriously, either BAN smoking (and alcahol) completely OR legalize blow, hash, crack, etc.
2139 Man with more than a cold  [ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | 12:40:49 AM ]
Not to harp on, how many people die whom are non-smokers (debatable) and how many from liver disease annually (debatable, but not from the bottle on the table ? ).
2138 Man with a cold  [ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | 12:28:11 AM ]
Well, you gave me a cold/flu - don't see that segregation anywhere.
2132 David Bullard  [ Tuesday, September 22, 2009 | 7:28:38 PM ]
Ah but Dominik...if the pursuit of pleasure is one of the basic human rights why can't I smoke providing nobody near me objects? Why must the health nazis tell me what to do.
2131 Sharon  [ Tuesday, September 22, 2009 | 7:07:05 PM ]
As usual, Mr Bullard is spot on !
2118 Dominik  [ Tuesday, September 22, 2009 | 3:36:19 PM ]
Cars serve a purpose......transporting people around......industry serves a purpose (make things that people use, employ people)......smoking serves no purpose other than to pleasure the individual (at the expense of everyone else)
2116 David Bullard  [ Tuesday, September 22, 2009 | 3:13:50 PM ]
By the same argument Dominik cars should be banned because what you inhale from the exhaust is far worse than cigarettes. And, while we're about it, why not heavy industry. Look at Jo'burg's poluted skyline on a cold, windless morning. That yellow smog isn't cigar smoke.....
2115 Dominik  [ Tuesday, September 22, 2009 | 2:52:06 PM ]
Smoking should be banned full-stop. The second you light-up a fag you're (a) polluting the air; (b) creating litter (fag-end); and (c) causing hamr to yourself which ultimately has to be treated and paid for. Smokers are quick to go on about their rights.....but what about the rights of non-smokers? And don't worry about the world cup......most other developed countries are way ahead and have already banned smoking in public places......
2095 David Bullard  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 9:35:03 PM ]
I have to say that I am rather upbeat about just under 2000 reads in just over a day. I put it down to the power of advertising on 702 and Cape Talk. I might have to light up a Havana to celebrate.
2094 Lyndall Beddy  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 6:02:02 PM ]
Abmandal

The trouble is that our judges and police chiefs drive drunk - so they ban smoking?
2093 Abmandal  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 5:33:08 PM ]
smoking is of-course the choice of the smoker, second inhalation is however to suffer an infringement of one's right to a clean and healthy environment (I believe this is the constitution somewhere, but alas I havent the legal lore to quote). Cigarettes are addictive and they cause ill health even to those innocent little persons born of repugnant smoking parents. All the while tobacco companies and our illustrious political cats keep fattening off the profits. So ban it wherever it affects the innocent I say, much as we would discourage drunken driving not to protect the moron behind the wheel but instead for the safety and well being of the innocent potential victims.
2088 slumdweller  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 3:22:21 PM ]
Smoking is your pleasure, second hand smoke is the byproduct.
Drinking beer is my pleasure, piss is the by product.
If you promise not to let your second hand smoke envelope me, I promise not to piss and splash you!
2087 Lyndall Beddy  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 2:58:57 PM ]
Durban Dave

I suggest that the OWNERS who know their clients get to choose whether they want smoking or not - then those that do smoke and those that don't can congregate together.

But my daughter in London tells me the British and Irish pubs were badly hit - but the French just ignored the law and went on smoking.

And for the fanatics - my mother was secretary of the Cancer Institute for over a decade - and the only case of lung cancer they ever had was a nun who had never smoked.

Don

Were you and your wife breast or bottle fed babies? Asthma can occur from not being sensitised as a baby.
2086 Durban Dave  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 2:15:13 PM ]
Lyndall I have to question the stat about the majority of restaurant clients smoking. I work in a small office of 12 people and none of us smoke (we range in age from early twenties to late forties). If I look at my friends outside of work not one of them smokes either. Anecdotal, maybe but I think restaurateurs claiming the MAJORITY smoke is a little disingenuous.
2085 Ant  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 2:14:32 PM ]
my my what a burning topic!!

Firstly I'm that worst type of anti-smoker, the ex-smoker.

Whilst I cannot stand the smell of a smoking section in a restaurant, it's my right to sit there or not. I can agree with many of the new laws, and where it can affect the health (if it really can at all) or the comfort of those in the vicinity, bring it on. Let's have some respect for non smokers, but for people like poor joe, below who would apparently just cease to exist if somebody lit a ciggy near him, it's probably best he continues to live in his bubble, since he obviously is the farthest we can get from an alpha male. You cannot ban smoking as much as you could ban reiki.

Give the smokers their space (be democratic - work it out according to number of smokers in the populace) and let us all try, just for a little while, to be more considerate of all south africans.

PS:

Anybody going to make as much of a stink regarding major industry pollution - automotive pollution etc... you know, the stuff that really does kill us?
2083 David Bullard  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 1:13:03 PM ]
@Gforced.....You need a verb in that first sentence. No.....don't mention it. We like to help the semi literate at The Sentinel. By the way.....I think I just have inhaled your waste product.
2078 Gforced  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 11:52:55 AM ]
You an Idiot! Complaining about not being able to smoke.It's always about the smokers.Smokers never think about the affect to others who choose not to smoke.Who cares if second hand smoke causes cancer or not,smoker don't have the right to take that chance.
Plus if i ate beans would you like in inhale my waste product?
2074 Don  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 11:01:53 AM ]
My mother smoked heavily with us the vicinity for much of my early life. I now have chronic asthma because of it. Second hand smoke triggers my asthma from about 50metres, I get ill if I smell it on peoples clothes. My wife is also asthmatic from smoking parents. We avoid smoking areas like the plague and friends are asked to smoke away from us. I really have little patience for smokers - when I began working I shared an open plan office with 10 smokers who puffed away at their desks while I coughed all day long. I believe smoking should be banned outright with the exceptions of cigars and marijuana. I have my own company and if someone is a smoker I think twice about hiring them. Not just because of how their habit may affect me but because over the years I've come to deduce that 99% of smokers make for poor human beings. Generally they are fat, unhealthy and carrying planeloads of emotional baggage. I have the lungs of a smoker despite never having smoked in my life. I've already started informing my favourite restaurants and coffee shops of the new laws. Next I'll make sure they are fined if they don't comply.
2073 donovan  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 11:01:45 AM ]
I know what, since smoking is an acceptable addiction to you, let's also allow other addictions acceptable to me to be allowed in restaurants and pubs. I'll cut and snort lines of coke at my table (there shall not be any inhalation, if you get my drift, from second hand dust clouds), while you shoot up with heroin at yours. That way we can all be happy in that public place, the smoker placated by his fix, me energised my mine, and you smacked out through yours.
2071 Get Real  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 10:57:23 AM ]
The real truth is that there is absoultely no link between second hand smoking and cancer. There are some extremely intollerant non-smokers out there on a crusade to free the world of cigarettes.

Penn & Teller did a really good show on this in their series called Bullshit.
2067 Lyndall Beddy  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 10:16:17 AM ]
The DEMOCRATIC thing to do would be to allow the OWNERS of the pubs and resturants to choose if they are going to be smoking or non smoking. Then smokers and non smokers will each have their own resturants and don't have to mix at all.

Very South African - just like apartheid.
2066 Carl  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 9:40:35 AM ]
The previous bit of news I read this morning was about a certain someone's party last night in Sandton. Then we have this absurd piece of legislation - did I wake up in a socialist country this morning?!

If the government is serious about our health, why not ban smoking completely? At least that would show some balls. Then we'd simply buy our cigarettes and cigars from our dealers. Imagine buying a Cohiba at four in the morning from someone in a crap car and gold teeth.
2065 Boss 7  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 9:36:34 AM ]

Don't mind for pepo who coming for 2010 world cup, and don't even worry about them, most of them know the rules coz it's applied in their country too, those rules of not smoking will only follow them in S.A that all
2058 Rich  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 9:12:07 AM ]
The day they can control the movement of smoke to the individual - then I will welcome smokers into my environment. There is a saying - controlling smoke is like having a urination section in a pool... it cannot be done.
We were born non- smokers and as such I think clean air should be the first right...
2057 James  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 8:49:58 AM ]
Ex Smoker... I cannot tolerate smoking anymore... BAN the blastard things.
2056 David Bullard  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 8:34:42 AM ]
@Johan......could you send that again....... but in English this time?
2054 GTX  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 8:24:46 AM ]
Many smokers obviously don't know just how unpleasant cigarette smoke is for non-smokers nor do they realise that non-smokers sense of smell is a lot better than theirs. (I can smell cigarette smoke at 15 meters on a calm day on the beach, or even emanating from the car in front of me in traffic !) The notion that smoking affects only the "individual", is nonsense. Even if one argues that there are no health risks to non-smokers breathing in the second hand smoke, it is still really unpleasant for them.

I was a smoker for 25 years and have given up for 20 years now. Smoking is really dumb.
2052 Johan  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 7:43:57 AM ]
Smoking apartheid how in the hell can one bring this together

it is clear that when you stupid you will allways be stupid

can you step off your apartheid or is it just to stupid to move on in live
2051 Lyndall Beddy  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 7:27:39 AM ]
Chris

The trouble is that it is not democratic is it? We alsready had a law that worked - seperate areas.Reatrurants and bars complain that the MAJORITY of their clients smoke, so how come the MINORITY can ban them?
2049 Chris   [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 6:29:05 AM ]
These laws are much in line with the rest of Europe, so in this instance, nothing can be blamed on the insanity of South African law. In my mind,when it boils down to it, it doesn't really have much to do with whether it is or isn't unhealthy (although I'm sure it is), but it is just plainly unpleasant for non -smokers to be around smokers, particularly while trying to enjoy a meal. It stinks and obstructs ones breathing, much the same as if anyone were to be around someone who continually passed gas. Would all the smokers of the world happily sit the fumes of their neighbours bowels while eating a meal? Perhaps if the culprit offered to waft the fumes in the opposite direction?
2048 Lyndall Beddy  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 4:57:53 AM ]
David

Off topic I know - but does Mondli know any coloured people? Did you have any working for the Sunday Times? He writes such peculiar things about them.

I can't ask him myself because The Sunday Times has gone elitist. No-one from the rural areas (and possibly the townships) is allowed on their new website. You have to subscibe so everyone with a post office or postnet box is banned (they are not big enough for the paper to be crammed into them).
2047 Lyndall Beddy  [ Monday, September 21, 2009 | 4:53:34 AM ]
KB

My uncle smoked a pack a day - his lungs were clear at age 60 said his doctor, BECAUSE he was a farmer - no pollution!
2038 KB  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 11:49:00 PM ]
Its easy. I stay at home. Have a beautiful steak and salad with my friends. All smokers. Great fun. I work at home so my ashtray overflows. I sympathies with restaurant owners, employers who are smokers and work indoors.
Funny but 3 of my friends died round about age 40. All non smokers from cancer. 2 died in motor accidents One of my friends were shot in his home (forced entry).....
Still the government enjoys the "sin tax"
Chemical engineers have a huge question regarding petrol fumes that we all inhale daily. The smoke in Witbank is fantastic from the mines. Most children are on asthma treatment. The world is crazy
2037 David Bullard  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 11:09:45 PM ]
To all the other smokers... Lets just respect non-smokers rights to breate in clean air. Our smoke stink's. Surely we can understand if they dont want to inhale it our secondhand crap...
2031 David Bullard  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 8:59:03 PM ]
Paul......probably the same question. The problem is that smoking isn't illegal yet so how can you have laws that are unfair to smokers? I can understand a ban on shooting heroin because it scares other diners but a smouldering ciggy????Puleeeaase.
2029 Paul Whelan  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 8:23:49 PM ]
What question does Natasha put to non-smokers?
2024 Stefan Coetzee  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 7:08:13 PM ]
There are always two sides to any coin. Sure, smokers have the RIGHT to smoke. But do they have the right to smoke wherever they please? What about the right of non-smokers to demand clean unpolluted air? Especially given the irrefutable evidence that tags smoking and second-hand smoking as health risks?

Are smokers seriously saying that their RIGHT to smoke OUTWEIGHS the right of people to experience clean, unpolluted air without the implied health hazards?

Sheesh guys, get real! Just who the hell do you think you are?

Yes, we all have the right to make a kaka. Does that mean we should have the right to kaka down other people's throats whenever and wherever we like, just because we enjoy the act?

I myself was a smoker for many years - I demanded this as my right - but I always accepted that it didnt mean other people have to join in, or pay my hospital bills.
2020 Hugh Robinson  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 5:38:08 PM ]

As an ex smoker I support the right to smoke wherever you like. I feel upset when I see an invited guests leave the room to have a smoke outside. I mean for gods sake if I invited the friend I should respect his position as he does mine. If I am so against smokers why have smokers as friends at all. Just tell them outright that you cannot be their friend because they smoke. Do not treat them like leppers and make them smoke outside.

Just give me the date and I will be happy to join you in protest in the middle of Simmonds street.
2015 Keith Rowley  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 3:59:52 PM ]
Fascism lives. Why not simply permit premises to stipulate - smoking or non-smoking? Or are the the health fascists terrified of the possibility that given a free choice. the majority of privately owned businesses would opt for smoking? As for the person who applauds the government - wait until they come for the fat off your meat, or the alcohol in your glass. But most people are too dumb for the infringement of personal liberty to matter to them. Oh for a new fronter, a rifle, a stash of beer and biltong and a good horse and wagon. First tax collector gets two rounds in the head; first beggar gets three; first politician gets strung up on a tree with hooks attached to the sexual apparatus and the first health fascist gets publicly flogged. What a merry conflagration of death and destruction a free people could inflict on the bums whose highest mission is to regiment us under their PC flag. Long live vice! Keep the rope oiled and the ammunition dry. The day will come!
2013 Lyndall Beddy  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 2:18:10 PM ]
Psycholgists call it displacement activity - trapped Zoo animals do it all the time. You can't work out how to solve any of the real problems so you displace your energy . Usually the ANC displaces into talk shops and Lekotlas - but sometimes they ban smoking (not pollution) and porn (not rape or kidnapped child brides).
2012 Lyndall Beddy  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 2:18:07 PM ]
Psycholgists call it displacement activity - trapped Zoo animals do it all the time. You can't work out how to solve any of the real problems so you displace your energy . Usually the ANC displaces into talk shops and Lekotlas - but sometimes they ban smoking (not pollution) and porn (not rape or kidnapped child brides).
2008 Michael  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 2:04:38 PM ]
An oversimplified argument may go as follows -------- smoking affects the individual, alcohol affects the family/neighbours,and drugs affect the whole community. Seems to me they are ovekill on smoking and underkill on the rest. Lets have some balance.
2003 MandM  [ Sunday, September 20, 2009 | 12:49:35 PM ]
As a non-smoker I am extremely happy about our countries smoking laws, there is nothing that smells worse than old cigarette smoke! The fact is, smoking causes cancer and I applaud our government for this initiative. If only they had plans to curb the spread of HIV...